tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5467119.post2126861066844765834..comments2023-10-24T10:09:22.146+01:00Comments on The Yorkshire Ranter: Dr. Benway strikes again, with Venture CapitalAlexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17153530634675543954noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5467119.post-28660269865206185532008-12-11T10:42:00.000+01:002008-12-11T10:42:00.000+01:00Serious?! Me?! for God sake no... only I think tha...Serious?! Me?! for God sake no... only I think that if I am to pay monthly/yearly or whatever fee on ongoing basis, I would make sure I am getting my money’s worth... It is not the same as "saying something is top class" or the other way around, if you see my point... Some times, I guess, the proof is in the pudding…<BR/>BTW- Liberman repeatedly states that there is no connection between the technology and the 8-15 Hz Lippold tremors. The patents show this is not the case, so I really think its time to let this story off the table too…Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5467119.post-51170798226891373642008-12-10T22:06:00.000+01:002008-12-10T22:06:00.000+01:00Anonymous, people might take you more seriously if...Anonymous, people might take you more seriously if you could do more than say "It must work, lots of companies use it". <BR/><BR/>Thats like saying "Moody's gave them a AAA rating, they must be good".guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5467119.post-87051614690620136802008-12-10T22:05:00.000+01:002008-12-10T22:05:00.000+01:00Anonymous, people might take you more seriously if...Anonymous, people might take you more seriously if you could do more than say "It must work, lots of companies use it". <BR/><BR/>Thats like saying "Moody's gave them a AAA rating, they must be good".guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5467119.post-44480066279982755912008-12-10T17:42:00.000+01:002008-12-10T17:42:00.000+01:00Alex, no point to argue really, just read the pate...Alex, no point to argue really, just read the patent law. Patents are expected to capture the "present situation" and best practice at the time they are submitted, no more... (and this was one was submitted some 10 years ago.) :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5467119.post-46191440417946552792008-12-10T16:31:00.001+01:002008-12-10T16:31:00.001+01:00Who ever said that a whole product (even if patent...<EM>Who ever said that a whole product (even if patented) must reveal the whole technology or underlying know-how?</EM><BR/><BR/>That's what "patent" means. Also, it's interesting how you make the same spelling mistakes Liberman does when he posts to MSDN.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17153530634675543954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5467119.post-35820971792243090122008-12-10T16:31:00.000+01:002008-12-10T16:31:00.000+01:00I dispute Yorkshire Ranter's technical argument in...I dispute Yorkshire Ranter's technical argument in his first paragraph here; it just is not that simple. See <A HREF="http://yorksranter.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/g729-and-the-welfare-state/#comment-2172" REL="nofollow">second comment on his first link</A> for more detail.<BR/><BR/>The 'thorn/plateau' aspects of the patent can, in my view, be interpreted as a (not particularly wonderful) algorithm for determining the start and end points of each glottal epoch, or the short-term frequency of glottal excitation. I could go on but, as I agree with Yorkshire Ranter that the whole concept of voice-based lie detection is rather flawed (see link above), to say nothing of well-known within the speech technology community, and the basic algorithms are rather crude and so uninteresting (at least to me), I'm going to have a cup of tea instead.<BR/><BR/>Best regardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5467119.post-81678685595728494262008-12-10T16:28:00.000+01:002008-12-10T16:28:00.000+01:00You know, this is funny. You seem to did your rese...You know, this is funny. You seem to did your research, yet come to strange conclusions. Who ever said that a whole product (even if patented) must reveal the whole technology or underlying know-how? Who said there must be only one patent? (In case on Liberman's patents, I know of at least two, and yes, the love-detector technology is in the other one). What surprises me over and over, is that the technology works even better on pre-recorded voice data, and technically, on voice bits the tested party never knew will be tested -so how is that supporting the “let’s scare the poor men”? LVA technology works, that’s a given. No government or serious corporate will make use of it without testing it, and apparently they use it - a lot. If it saves my money from going to fraudsters, I’m for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5467119.post-73428968128328320152008-12-10T03:57:00.000+01:002008-12-10T03:57:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com